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#26 08-10-2009 19:03:38

Uncletim
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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

Boy this is really starting to suck!

I am backing up and attempting to work out the most straightforward example presented in the manual.

In this manual example the pathing to redirect a category is as follows. My pathing is next.

http://www.mysite.com/ecom-catshow/kidbikeprts.html   (I believe this means the program was installed in the root directory.)
http://www.mysite.com/ccp7/ecom-catshow/Books.html

Here is how the rewrite rule as shown in the manual.
RewriteRule ^ecom-catshow/kidbikeprts\.html$ http://www.yourweb.com/Childrens-Bicycle-Parts [L,R=permanent]

Here is my version.
RewriteRule ^ccp7/ecom-catshow/Books\.html$ http://www.uncletim.com/ccp7/uncletims-books [L,R=permanent]

I believe there are problems with the pathing above.

Second set of rules.
Here is the manual example.
RewriteRule ^Children’s-Bicycle-Parts$ /ecom-catshow/kidbikeprts.html

Here is mine.
RewriteRule ^ccp7/uncletims-books$ /ecom-catshow/Books.html

If I understand the previous comments in this thread, the flow is as follows.

SEO_url >HDSEO_url   (first statement)
HDSEO_url >SEO_url  (second statement, there is no basic url used)


Here is what I plugged into the program.
Clone    Update    Delete    Default SEO URL      High Definition SEO URL
Clone    Update    Delete    /ecom-catshow/Books.html    /uncletims-books

Can anyone please check my exact syntax and let me know where I mis inturperted the manuals pathing instructions.

Thank you and if you cannot answer this, then just please shoot me.

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#27 08-12-2009 12:21:45

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#28 08-12-2009 12:26:48

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

Is the basic or standard SEO working?

John

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#29 08-12-2009 14:43:09

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

The Standard SEO is working

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#30 08-12-2009 14:46:34

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

Here is the .htaccess file.


Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^ccp7/ecom-catshow/Books\.html$ http://www.uncletim.com/ccp7/uncletims-books [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^ccp7/uncletims-books$ /ecom-catshow/Books.html
RewriteRule ^ccp7/ecom-prodshow/UTBB\.html$ http://www.uncletim.com/ccp7/uncle-tims … locks.html [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^uncle-tims-building-blocks.html$ /ecom-prodshow/UTBB.html
RewriteRule ^ccp7/(.*)-(.*)/(.*)\.html ccp7/index.php?app=$1&ns=$2&ref=$3 [L,PT]

All I am trying to do is get the categories working.
Once I understand what this is suppose to look like I can get the rest (usually). These two statements are where I need help I think.
RewriteRule ^ccp7/ecom-catshow/Books\.html$ http://www.uncletim.com/ccp7/uncletims-books [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^ccp7/uncletims-books$ /ecom-catshow/Books.html

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#31 08-12-2009 23:55:56

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

Try changing these two line form

Code:

RewriteRule ^ccp7/uncletims-books$ /ecom-catshow/Books.html

RewriteRule ^uncle-tims-building-blocks.html$ /ecom-prodshow/UTBB.html

to this

Code:

RewriteRule ^ccp7/uncletims-books$ ecom-catshow/Books.html

RewriteRule ^uncle-tims-building-blocks.html$ ecom-prodshow/UTBB.html

John

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#32 08-14-2009 10:15:57

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

Nope! Thanks for trying though! The redirect is not working.

Here is the modified .htaccess file.

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^ccp7/ecom-catshow/Books\.html$ http://www.uncletim.com/ccp7/uncletims-books [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^ccp7/uncletims-books$ ecom-catshow/Books.html
RewriteRule ^ecom-prodshow/UTBB\.html$ http://uncletim.com/uncle-tims-building-blocks.html [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^ccp7/ecom-prodshow/UTBB\.html$ http://www.uncletim.com/ccp7/uncle-tims … locks.html [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^uncle-tims-building-blocks.html$ ecom-prodshow/UTBB.htm
RewriteRule ^ccp7/(.*)-(.*)/(.*)\.html ccp7/index.php?app=$1&ns=$2&ref=$3 [L,PT]

Here is the same old result.
http://uncletim.com/ccp7/uncletims-books

Error 404

Wrong Page!

The page you requested was not found. Please use the menus on this page to navigate to an area on this site.

You can always send us an email if you cannot find what you are looking for.

Since I do not know how this routine is suppose to work and the manual does not show what the pathing should be for this situation, I have no way of determining if I am the problem or if this routine is broke.

How is the redirect suppose to work and why is it that after trying every permutation I can think of, can't I even get one simple redirect to work.

So far I have seven days on this without any answers.

Tim G.

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#33 08-14-2009 10:57:36

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

It looks like your trying to get to the ccp7 info which is in a dirrectory of ccp7 in the main site, also are these rules in the base directory of the site or in the ccp7 directory? I don't think it will work if the htaccess rules are in the ccp7 directory and not in the base of the site.

I had to go back to a beta test since I don't really have HDSEO on my live site to do some testing, but the code line in my test is like what I posted in #31 which got my test to work but I do also have the periods escaped in all my lines, so try this

Code:

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^ccp7/ecom-catshow/Books\.html$ http://www.uncletim.com/ccp7/uncletims-books [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^ccp7/uncletims-books$ ccp7/ecom-catshow/Books\.html
RewriteRule ^ccp7/ecom-prodshow/UTBB\.html$ http://uncletim.com/uncle-tims-building-blocks\.html [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^ccp7/ecom-prodshow/UTBB\.html$ http://www.uncletim.com/ccp7/uncle-tims-building-blocks\.html [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^ccp7/uncle-tims-building-blocks\.html$ ccp7/ecom-prodshow/UTBB\.html
RewriteRule ^ccp7/(.*)-(.*)/(.*)\.html ccp7/index.php?app=$1&ns=$2&ref=$3 [L,PT]

John

Last edited by dh783 (08-14-2009 11:13:50)

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#34 08-14-2009 11:45:12

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

Thank you dh783:

That was the help I needed.

That is exactly the problem and I went back and checked the examples in the manual and THEY ARE ALL WRONG!

Anyone who uses the HDSEO manual, please realize escaping the .html must happen any time you encounter a .html.

That small oversight in the manual cost me about 25 hours of work.

Once again I call out the documentation team to do a better job!

It is one thing to provide scant information about a complicated product, it is another issue entirely to make these kinds of mistakes.

Until this is correctly, the manual gets an F for a grade.

Here is the line in the manual that is incorrect along with ALL THE EXAMPLES.

Please note that any periods (.) in the first part of the rules need to be escaped with a backslash
(\).

It turns out that any period in BOTH parts must be escaped.

Not so happy right now.

Tim G.

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#35 08-14-2009 18:52:08

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

I had HDSEO installed in ccp 6, and functioning, using the rules as written in the manual.  I tried to use those same rules (updated to ecom-catshow) in ccp 7 and no dice.  I made the changes given by John above and it works fine now.  I wonder why it worked in ccp 6?

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#36 08-19-2009 14:44:34

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

I am having a similar problem, getting a 404 message for the following link:

http://www.undercutter.co.uk/iphones-sale

I have ensured that both normal and HD SEO is true and have added the following htaccess file:

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^ecom-catshow/iphones\.html$ http://www.undercutter.co.uk/iphones-sale [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^iphones-sale$ /ecom-catshow/iphones.html
RewriteRule ^(.*)-(.*)/(.*)\.html /index.php?app=$1&ns=$2&ref=$3 [L,PT]


Then in the System: HDSEO URL Managerr I added the following:

Clone     Update     Delete     Default SEO URL                     High Definition SEO URL
Clone     Update     Delete     /ecom-catshow/iphones.html     /iphones-sale

The redirect seems to work but there is no page there (404 error).
Any idea?

Last edited by sdonn (08-19-2009 14:47:57)

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#37 08-19-2009 15:01:26

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

Change this line

Code:

RewriteRule ^iphones-sale$ /ecom-catshow/iphones.html

to

Code:

RewriteRule ^iphones-sale$ /ecom-catshow/iphones\.html

and see if that helps.

John

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#38 08-19-2009 15:11:44

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

Nope fraid that made no difference. Any other ideas?

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#39 08-19-2009 15:38:15

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

I'd been going crazy with in over the weekend and through help from dave and craig came up with this

Options +FollowSymLinks
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^store/ecom-prodshow/navyblanketwoven\.html$ http://www.thememoriesplace.com/store/u … to-blanket [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^store/us-navy-personalized-photo-blanket$ store/ecom-prodshow/navyblanketwoven\.html

RewriteRule ^store/ecom-catshow/military\.html$ http://www.thememoriesplace.com/military-gifts [L,R=permanent]
RewriteRule ^military-gifts$ store/ecom-catshow/military\.html

RewriteRule ^store/(.*)-(.*)/(.*)\.html store/index.php?app=$1&ns=$2&ref=$3 [L,PT]


which gives me


http://www.thememoriesplace.com/store/u … to-blanket

and

http://www.thememoriesplace.com/military-gifts


The hdseo mod reads

Clone Update Delete Default SEO URL High Definition SEO URL
Clone Update Delete /ecom-cat/military.html /military-gifts.html
Clone Update Delete /ecom-cat/navyblanketwoven.html /us-navy-personalized-photo-blanket.html



I'm working on a few other pages now and will be adding them to the mix, hoping they work out too.

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#40 08-19-2009 16:24:53

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

If you haven't got it working then try it like

Code:

RewriteRule ^iphones-sale$ ecom-catshow/iphones\.html

John

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#41 08-19-2009 16:40:50

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

are you sure that is what  your hdseo mod says as as your rewrite refers to ecom-catshow and the hdseo mod refers to ecom-cat, slightly different

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#42 08-19-2009 16:45:34

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

thanks john, it seems to be working now!

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#43 08-19-2009 17:30:58

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

I have a couple of questions:

1) I have added the rewrite rules for all the categories and have noticed that all categories are working now under the new format, however I have not added them to the HD Manager list and they still work.  Why do we need to add them there also if they are working without having to add them through admin?
2) To get all my products working with the HD SEO, do I really have to add rewrite rules for the 100s of products I have? This would seem like a completely crazy way of doing this SEO and too time consuming.

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#44 11-24-2009 19:48:28

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

sdonn wrote:

I have a couple of questions:

1) I have added the rewrite rules for all the categories and have noticed that all categories are working now under the new format, however I have not added them to the HD Manager list and they still work.  Why do we need to add them there also if they are working without having to add them through admin?
2) To get all my products working with the HD SEO, do I really have to add rewrite rules for the 100s of products I have? This would seem like a completely crazy way of doing this SEO and too time consuming.

Did anybody give a reply to this question??

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#45 11-25-2009 09:29:02

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Re: Cannot figure out HDSEO manual

The HDSEO mod rewrites the urls within ccp to create the look you want as does the standard SEO. The htaccess rules redirects the incoming urls to the base ccp url set to get the page displayed. They are really independent of each other but without the HDSEO or standard SEO running ccp will not create the allusion of different urls.

John

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