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Hi Allen,

Not sure what you mean by this:

Then, I downloaded and installed the Froogle mod 2 from Nick - but it doesn't work at all.

But yes, feel free to contact me by email and I'll make sure you get a working solution in place.

Mark

kaz: I tried this and it gives me a 405 page when I do a search...

Can you please advise on how to make my page links come up like yours?

example:

http://classygroundcovers.com/page----bestsell

I have the seo mod, but mine come up like this:

http://classygroundcovers.com/ccp51/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?&pg=bestsell

I appreciate all the help you provide us.

Hi All,

I have some extra help in the office this summer, so I've decided to offer the SEO module at a reduced price for a while. See .

Thanks!

Mark

Hello Mark,
We are also considering purchasing this mod. Is there a demo admin interface we can look at so I can see how the text/metatags/descriptions/titles are associated with the various pages? Thanks.

Renae

Thanks Mark. That was helpful. I have some further question, however.

Is it possible to edit the description/title/meta tags on each page if I want them to be different from the production description, etc? For instance, after a lot of research, I know would like to optimize a certain product using the key phrases: beach bags, fun bags, unique bags, beach accessories, and beach bag. However, I don't plan on using ALL of these key words in the product description. And, I may want the title of page to be different than the product name. Is there any flexibility like that, or is it all automatic? Thanks for your help.

Signing off from Ghana...

Hello,

Thanks for the kind words.

I apologize, I didn't catch the post from 8/18/04 until today.

My regular SEO module does not provide for manually entering titles and meta tags that are not derived from the product title, description, and keyword fields. Part of the advantage of the SEO module is that it generates those elements automatically, making sure your SEO info is complete and up to date whether or not you have time to go through all your products and generate that info.

However, you are correct that if you take the time to research keywords, etc, a human can often tweak that info beneficially. To accomodate that, I have a version of the SEO module informally called "SEO Pro" that provides additional database fields where the info you are interested can be entered directly, overriding the info generated by the SEO module. If you leave those new fields empty, the SEO module will behave as normal, generating the info automatically. So with the SEO Pro you have the option to manually enter info for just the products that you want to focus on, while still getting the benefits of automatic SEO on the others.

The SEO Pro costs a little extra, email me if you want to discuss details.

Thanks, and again I apologize for not catching this post until today.

Mark

Hello Haydn,

I'll look into your category links, fix them up, and update you via email.

You are correct that clear and descriptive category and product names and descriptions are essential for good SEO results.

Mark

Mark,

Could you please explain in a bit more detail what THIS upgrade will do for us?
Also, can you tell us what the Pros/Cons are of upgrading?


Thank you.

Hello,

Regarding the SEO upgrade, I'll try to provide some more information:

1. It is not essential. If you are getting good results now, there's no need to change anything. The SEO module is quite solid in it's initial version.

2. I have some reason to believe that the upgraded version of the SEO module will work better with the forthcoming MSN search engine. For that reason I include the upgraded features on new installs. However, I would not recommend that existing sites change what's working to plan for a search engine that isn't a factor yet.

3. The breadcrumb navigation is important to some sites, and would be a reason to upgrade if it is important to you. Good breadcrumb navigation combined with clean URLs has been a challenge that I did not have a satisfactory solution for in the initial release.

4. The ALT tags on the images can be helpful for SEO because it gets the product name associated with the images of the product. That's good for overall page relevance, and might have some benefits in terms of getting your images into the Google image search.

5. Changing the URL endings to .html would cause disruption in your current search traffic, so if you are doing well with the SEO module now, I don't recommend changing that. I have made that particular change an optional part of the upgrade, so users who want the ALT tags and the breadcrumbs don't have to change their URLs. Someday MSN may prove to be a powerful search player. If that day comes and MSN is still silly about URL endings (rather than heeding MIME types like they should), having the upgraded SEO module with the .html URL endings will be worthwhile. If you are a big fan of Microsoft, you might choose to endure the disruption of a change in URLs in order to be prepared for that future possibility.

I think that's pretty much the whole story about the SEO upgrade. Not a big deal, but something I wanted to make available so users can make their own judgements about how important those features are to their businesses.

Mark

Changing the URL endings to .html would cause disruption in your current search traffic....

You can get around this by leaving the old .htaccess rules in place and simply routing them to the new URLs. 

However, you might be penalized as having "duplicate pages", so it would be better to use Redirect instead of RewriteRule.
You can use the "303" directive to tell the search engine that the resource has been moved permanently.

Example:

    Redirect 303 ^itemstring--(.*) /ccp51/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?blah=itemstring--$1.html

See  for the syntax.

Hey Mark,
I've just ordered your SEO module for a site I've just finished for a maternity wear retailer called  and its the first site I've made that uses cgi-generated pages.

Traditionally, I've submitted key pages to vast numbers of engines with good results mostly using webposition 3. I know eventually everything will get crawled I guess, but here's the question-

I want to use the same method of mass-submitting to as many search engines as possible via Webposition, but which AFTER installing your SEO module, will I be able to submit any more pages, other than the index.htm?

What would be your recommendation or advice here?

Thanks
Rob Dorney

the current consensus is that you will be penalized by sites such as google if you submit pages separately (considered spamming) - use ATS' index mod and all of your pages will certainly get indexed (as they are all only one level off the main page, such as

i used to use webposition and trafficseeker but stopped once i saw the detrimental effect on my google listings

sure it might help with some of the other ones, but those will contribute such a tiny amount to your traffic that your effort is better spent on other things like optimizing the page content

many believe that search engines also penalize your site for using webposition to measure your position - think about it: each time you use wp to measure your position you cause a large number of searches that generate no revenue for google, only a load - why would they encourage this drain on their resources by giving better placement to users of products like wp?
(it's obvious to them when they're being searched by wp)

i suggest you toss wp

how can i change my title

for example



the title is tape packs @ jungleravers.com

how do i take out the @ jungleravers.com ?