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#1 02-13-2004 15:16:16

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Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

ATS is excited to announce the release of an SEO module for CCP 5.0 and 5.1.

This module makes the URLs for your category and product pages search-engine friendly (no cgi-bin, no question mark, no ampersands, usr IDs, etc.) and populates the page titles and URLs with relevant keywords pulled from your product database.

There's no need for complex mod_rewrite rules or static HTML pages to get your site spidered. Two simple mod_rewrite rules, an additional Perl module, and a few modifications to existing HTML and Perl code are used to accomplish the task.

ATS is offering this module for sale, and will install it on your site. High search-engine rankings cannot be gauranteed as they depend on many factors, but this module will definitely increase your CCP site's spider-friendliness. Relevant titles and URLs are considered two of the most important elements for good search engine placement.

For all the details and some examples of the module in use .

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Mark


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#2 02-17-2004 09:07:06

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Mark, sounds like a great mod.  I don't know if I'll need or buy it, but thanks for putting it out there and telling us about it.

I feed my family by shipping goods from my store, not by reading long forum strings.  I fully support Nick in doing whatever he needs to do to continue keeping this forum professional and efficient.

Thanks again, Mark, for your hard work on a useful mod.

Matt 


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#3 02-17-2004 10:03:05

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Several *off-topic* posts were deleted from this thread today.  If you have questions about the functionality or installation of this module, please post them here. 

ATS is offering this module as an alternative to several mods on this forum related to search engine optimization.  In my opinion, this is a very complete module that addresses optimization on Apache servers in an efficient manner. 

Because of the nature of the module and the many modifications needed to the base install to make it work, the pricing is reasonable.  ATS will be spending a fair amount of time doing the installation on each server this module is installed.  As we all know, time is money - and that's where the cost is derived from.

Concerning the availability of an SEO module in CCP6 (zuma) (which at this point isn't even in the hands of the beta team), zuma will contain at the very least a process to export pages as static HTML.  There may be a mod_rewrite module available, but that hasn't been confirmed.  Anyone interested in results with search engine optimization, who can't wait for zuma, and who has tried the other optimization mods on the forum, should consider this module from ATS.

Again, if you have questions about the functionality or installation of this module, please post them here.   


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#4 02-17-2004 10:06:21

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

For those who still don't understand what a SEO module Search Engine Optimization is, here's another URL you can refer too :


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#5 02-17-2004 10:20:15

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

I take it this mod will not work with windows servers?

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#6 02-17-2004 10:28:32

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Incorrect. It also works with Windows Servers.


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#7 02-17-2004 10:43:12

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Mark or Gurus

Are the changes made to the software content only or are they made to server mods and settings?


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#8 02-17-2004 11:02:54

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

I am flirting with getting this MOD.  Before I do, has anyone that has this MOD installed seen any results yet on the search engines?


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#9 02-17-2004 11:17:57

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Hello,

Thanks for the questions guys.

This module works with the apache web server only because it does depend on a couple of mod_rewrite rules. Virtually all Linux/UNIX servers run apache. It's possible to run apache on Windows servers as well, but I don't think that is all that common. If you are running Microsoft IIS on a Windows server the module will not work.

The substance of the module exists in a new perl file named ste_seo.pl which goes in the modules directory.

The only thing that is changed as far as server settings are the 2 mod_rewrite rules which are placed in a .htaccess file in your web root directory. Access to the apache  configuration files is not normally needed. I've had one case where mod_rewrite was not enabled on the server, but the web host's tech support enabled it without any hassle.

Minor changes are also made to cp-app.cgi, vars.pl, ste_cat.pl, ste_prod.pl, ste_usr.pl, and each of the HTML elements that are involved in displaying category or product links.

Regarding results in the search engines, the first installs of this module were done a little over a week ago. The pages have not been updated in Google yet. I'm eager to see how they do and I'll post some results when they show up.

Mark




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#10 02-17-2004 11:37:43

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

I take it this mod will not work with windows servers?

Oops ! turns out you were right. Sorry for the bad info. smile


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#11 02-17-2004 12:06:14

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

I had the mod installed yesterday, and I must say that Mark is fast and goes out of his way to make sure that you get the best possible solution for your site.

He didn't just "install" it for me, he tweaked it without me even asking him to do it.
He looked at what I had, and saw a way to make the mod work even better for me, and made the adjustments accordingly.
That is the kind of thing that you just don't get too often anymore today.
I was hesitant because of the price, but the effort he put forth stripped that right out of my mind.

The install cost is a bargain at twice the price. I can't tell you about the results yet, but I had to tell you about the install. Go for it! 

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#12 02-17-2004 12:26:28

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Mark

Im on windows server 2003 at present so this mod could not work for me

Guru's would this be the same for v6 if it had any SEO?

I am considering changing servers any thoughts


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#13 02-17-2004 12:44:09

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Hey Sambam,

I'm sure the ability to generate static pages that Nick plans to incorporate with version 6 will work on Windows servers.

As far as Windows hosting, I usually steer clear of it, but that's partly because I am much more familiar with administration of Unix servers. I'm curious to see what other comments you get on that.

Mark


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#14 02-17-2004 12:55:09

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Mark

I think it is time for me to transfer over to unix but im not sure how asp works with it and considering i have over 25 data driven sites all working on asp / sql server i am not sure if it would be a good move when im not familiar with unix

the sql server will work with unix if you get the mod for it but what about asp?
Also i could just convert to mysql

Any thoughts

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#15 02-17-2004 12:57:04

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Reason i ask is i would like the SEO mod and have the concerns about moving to UNIX Server

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#16 02-17-2004 22:29:48

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

OK, I don't believe I understand how this mod would help and would appreciate your answers to these basic questions.

If a search engine bot finds a page in CCP it can't follow it to another page because of the syntax used in the menu code.  True or False?

This mod does not affect the way CCP works in the menuing system. True or False?

The modified URL of a page after installing this mod will never be seen by a search engine because there is nothing pointing to it. True or False?

Thank you in advance.




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#17 02-18-2004 08:51:33

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

sambam,02/17/2004 12:55:09 PM wrote:


the sql server will work with unix if you get the mod for it but what about asp?

SAM

Unix/Linux does not natively support asp.  But there are add on programs that the Unix/Linux host can purchase that will support asp.  The catch is, the host has to purchase these programs.  I have been in the hosting business using Linux servers for 5 years. I have not had one call for asp support, so guess what?  I won't soon be running out and purchasing the program.  I suspect that you will find most hosts feel this way also, but I could be wrong.  You can check with some of the big boys like Verio to see if they have Unix/asp support, but I think you may have a tough hunt.  But, then again, someone could easily prove me wrong.

You might look for a host that is running Cobalt RAQ4 servers as I remember they came with asp support.  The downside of that is that they are only 500 meg processors.  Not sure about the RAQ5s.

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#18 02-18-2004 10:21:11

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Hello,

Some answers:

If a search engine bot finds a page in CCP it can't follow it to another page because of the syntax used in the menu code. True or False?

False. All links to product and category pages are changed to use a search-engine friendly format. So the spider can get from one category/product page to the next using those links.

This mod does not affect the way CCP works in the menuing system. True or False?

If by menuing system you mean the category list, then those links are affected.

The modified URL of a page after installing this mod will never be seen by a search engine because there is nothing pointing to it. True or False?

False. The category and product links on your home page will be search-engine friendly, so the spider will most likely start there. From there it will be able to spider through all your categories and products.

Hope that helps.

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#19 02-20-2004 08:10:49

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Thank you for your answers.
This clears up my questions.  wink



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#20 02-21-2004 13:37:35

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Hello all,

Just an update, in response to user requests this SEO module now also populates the META description and keyword tags with relevant info from the database when possible.

Thanks,

Mark


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#21 02-23-2004 21:06:44

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Do we have any search engine results yet? Since most of us add and delete products all the time is there any issues with adding and removing products once this mod is done?

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#22 02-23-2004 21:25:26

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

tom-m,02/23/2004 09:06:44 PM wrote:

Do we have any search engine results yet? Since most of us add and delete products all the time is there any issues with adding and removing products once this mod is done?

I don't know the statistics for all web users, but when I click on a url to a site and it's comes up with 'page cannot be found', I always remove everything beyond the .com, .net, etc. to try and get to the root file or index page.
This usually will get me into the site, unless the site has terminated or changed it's domain name.


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#23 02-23-2004 21:28:19

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Hello,

No search engine results (positive or negative) yet.  Google has not updated its listings for the first install sites yet. It is still showing pages from before the module was installed. Same for MSN. I'm checking each day and I'll post some results when I have them. I'm really eager to see how the pages rank.

Regarding adding and deleting products, that is no problem. Everything is automatic and based on the database contents. The new product pages will be optmized just like product pages that existing before the SEO module was installed.

If surfers visit a url that points to a product that no longer exists, they will get a page with category links, etc. so they can still find similar products, etc.

Mark


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#24 02-23-2004 21:35:26

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

I have a report for you.  On the site that you did for TonyS, I checked his Alexa  ranking on the 20th, the day you installed the mod. His ranking was 1023788. I just checked it a few minutes ago and the rank had moved to 771540.  That is an increase of over 300,000 places.  Not sure if it is from the mod or not but it was an interesting increase.

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#25 02-23-2004 22:13:16

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Re: Now Available: An Seo Module For Ccp

Thanks for the info TerryA. I doubt the SEO module had anything to do with it that soon, but keep watching.

Mark


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