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#1 07-10-2003 16:23:47

keyman
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From: Pacific Grove, California
Registered: 08-26-2003
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Near Bankruptcy

My server is getting upset with my constant nagging.
I have tried everything in the manual to get my SSL set up properly. All I seem to get is 404 errors.

Do I have to move all my files out of my CGI-bin to the https directory?

I am absolutely unsure of how to set this up.

I am also still having problems we linking my categories to my products?

I started out with CCP4 and was not able to set up before CCP5 came out and I still have not been able to set upCCP5.

It would be real nice to see a manual with screenshots and a few simple step-by-step instructions.

I am near bankruptcy at this time ( thanks to the sales, I have been missing) , I cannot afford to pay someone to set this program up for me.

keyman
http://www.weddingofficiants.org/cgi-bi … cp-app.cgi

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#2 07-10-2003 22:08:07

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From: York, PA
Registered: 04-20-2001
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

There are a ton of links out here on getting SSL working - check them out.  If you post a directory structure with notes out here I'll give my best effort to tell you exactly what to do.

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#3 07-11-2003 02:09:41

keyman
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From: Pacific Grove, California
Registered: 08-26-2003
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Re: Near Bankruptcy


This is all I have from http://www.alterhosting.com
My website path: /home/httpd/vhosts/weddingofficiants.org/httpdocs
Path to CGI-BIN /home/httpd/vhosts/weddingofficiants.org/cgi-bin
Path to Error Docs /home/httpd/vhosts/weddingofficiants.org/error_docs
Path to Perl /usr/bin/perl
Path to SENDMAIL /usr/sbin/sendmail
Path to TAR /bin/tar
Path to DATE /bin/date
Path to PICO /usr/bin/pico
Path to PYTHON /usr/bin/python

This is off my FTP:
anon_ftp
bin
cert
cgi-bin
conf
error_docs
ftpstat
httpdocs
httpsdocs
Logs
pd
pd
web_users
webstat
webstat-ssl

I hope this helps.

keyman

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#4 07-11-2003 06:59:12

WayneK
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Registered: 08-17-2003
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

<font size="1" color="#FF0000">LAST EDITED ON 07-11-03 AT 08:00 AM (EST)</font><p>What I would do is find other sites using alterhosting.com and look at how they implement ssl

you should put a copy of the ccp5 media directory in the httpsdocs directory.

as far as the cgi-bin is concerned I would think calling your cp-app.cgi would be same as unsecured except with https://

donno otherwise

perhaps a peek at the paths entered in cp-app.cgi would reveal something


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#5 07-13-2003 02:15:18

keyman
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From: Pacific Grove, California
Registered: 08-26-2003
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

I guess it is working Now ???? But What is this Popup?

Downloading non-secure content from a secure Web site

The Web site you are viewing is a secure site. It uses a security protocol such as SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) or PCT (Private Communications Technology) to secure the information you send and receive.
When sites use a security protocol, information that you provide, such as your name or credit-card number, is encrypted so that other people can’t read it. However, this Web page also contains items that do not use this secure protocol.
Given what you know about this Web site and your computer, you must decide whether to continue working with this site.

If you do not feel confident about working with this site, click No.

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#6 07-13-2003 09:26:15

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From: York, PA
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

It sounds like you're pulling images/javascript/css from a non-secure location on your order form.  First, check to make sure you have a secure (https) path enter for your media directory under Global Settings | Manage Program Settings.  If you do, then your issue is that you used 'http' URLs in your HTML Site Layout instead of the (CGIVAR)images_path(/CGIVAR) variable.  That variable switches automatically from http to https on the credit card entry page.

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#7 07-14-2003 16:42:56

keyman
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From: Pacific Grove, California
Registered: 08-26-2003
Posts: 45
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

Instead of copying and having two directories, could I just changed the path in cp-admin.cgi and cp-app.cgi to:
/home/httpd/vhosts/weddingofficiants.org/httpsdocs and run my media out of my https directory?

Ira

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#8 07-14-2003 17:45:31

kevbo
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Registered: 01-13-2002
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

Although I've never tried calling images from a secure directory from a non https url, one downside to having all your images come thru SSL ONLY is that they will load more slowly.  One or two images probably no big deal but the entire store would be a bad idea in my opinion.

Going thru SSL produces more computations and places a larger load on the server, and thus the slower load times.

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#9 07-14-2003 19:31:22

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From: York, PA
Registered: 04-20-2001
Posts: 19798
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

In addition to kevbo's comments, when you access http pages with https images, you'll get a nice browser warning message.  If you don't feel like running two dirs, have your host symbolically link the one to the other.  They would do this with the command:

ls -s /home/httpd/vhosts/weddingofficiants.org/httpocs/ccp5/media /home/httpd/vhosts/weddingofficiants.org/httpsdocs/ccp5/media

(All on one line).  Adjust your paths accordingly.  This makes the server think that the media directory exists in both locations, but it's only really in the http location.


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#10 07-14-2003 23:44:10

keyman
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From: Pacific Grove, California
Registered: 08-26-2003
Posts: 45
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

I did : ( It didn't work.... My customers have been sending me their orders via standard e-mail. So I think, I will leave the secure stuff the way it was. Apparently half of the information is going over to the SSL ( or says my hosting company.

I'm kind of hoping one of the newer versions of CCP5 will have a simple solution to this problem in the future.

A most sincere thank you for your time

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#11 07-15-2003 14:20:10

keyman
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From: Pacific Grove, California
Registered: 08-26-2003
Posts: 45
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

Host responded to my help desk request.

"Do you need to have a possibility for your Click Cart and order pages to be working both on secured and non-secured pages? If you need this you just have to upload the same file to the two directories /httpdocs  and /httpsdocs. It's not possible to make symbolic links with Apache server.
BUT: In this case the information about credit card number of your customers will be transfered non-securely."

I guess I am stuck using two directories. Seems like there should be a better way.

Oh well sad

Ira

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#12 07-16-2003 08:36:28

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From: York, PA
Registered: 04-20-2001
Posts: 19798
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

>It's not possible to make symbolic links with Apache server.

That's blatently incorrect.  The host must have disabled the use of SymLinks for your account.  All they would need to do is add the line:

Options FollowSymLinks

To your account's setup, restart Apache and set up the symbolic link for you.  It will take them 5 minutes to do.  This host doesn't seem willing to work with you on this.

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#13 07-17-2003 00:20:31

Guest
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

I would switch to another web hosting company!!

My web hosting company http://www.ez-web-hosting.com and they don't have a seperate https server.  My website server and the https are together. This is a very very WONDERFUL web hosting company. I would highly recommend it to ANYONE!!!

Charles

 

#14 07-17-2003 01:37:37

EagleWolf
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From: Daytona Beach, FL
Registered: 07-27-2003
Posts: 979

Re: Near Bankruptcy

Charlie,

If there is anything we can do to help you please let us know.

Chris
wwwequivity.com
E-Commerce hosting packages starting at $5.95/month.
webmaster@equivity.com

Also see our new site
wwwsite_name_deleted.com


Chris
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#15 07-17-2003 16:07:50

keyman
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From: Pacific Grove, California
Registered: 08-26-2003
Posts: 45
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

I will definitely check out your suggestions( Host ) is much easier to change host that is to keep playing with a system that isn't working.

Sincerely many thanks,
The keyman

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#16 07-17-2003 21:34:22

Guest
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Re: Near Bankruptcy

I haven't had any down time.  When I had a question for them they responded very quickly!!  The price for the space, bandwidth, features is VERY good!!  I had looked at serveral(I mean several) other web hosting companies and found them to be the best over the others that I checked out.  You get a really good discount for paying a year in advance!!

http://www.ez-web-hosting.com

Charles

 

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